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Elgin Ladies Hunting Case Pocket Watch

Partially verified

This Elgin ladies pocket watch features a gold-filled hunter case documented with engraved motifs, including a bird. The white dial is signed 'Elgin' and displays Roman numeral hour markers, blued steel spade hands, and a subsidiary seconds dial at 6 o'clock. The source records a movement serial number of 5176097, a case diameter of 28.5 mm, and a gross weight of 38.3 grams. The inside case covers are marked 2139523.

Dial and open front hunter case of the Elgin ladies pocket watch
Dial and open front hunter case of the Elgin ladies pocket watch — Revere Auctions. Rights pending — permission not yet requested. Original source

Catalogue identity

Source
www.the-saleroom.com
Category
Pocket watch · Hunter pocket watch
Maker / attribution
Elgin
Reference
Not recorded
Catalogue / lot identifier
185
Source-reported date
Not established
Country
United States
Source-reported serial
5176097

Source-reported attribution and specifications are not independent authentication. A listing does not establish present ownership, current display, availability or permission to reproduce.

Object description

Case Construction and Exterior Markings

The pocket watch is set in a gold-filled hunting case recorded with a diameter of 28.5 mm and a gross weight of 38.3 g. The case exterior is documented with engraved details that include a bird motif. Visual observation shows a beaded or reeded pattern around the case rim, an onion-style crown with an attached bow at 3 o'clock, and visible verdigris along the bezel edges.

Internal case markings recorded in the auction description include the front case inside marked '2139523 with scales', the back case inside bearing the same marking, and the interior case inside marked '2139523 with Co.'

Evidence for this section
  • “Elgin ladies pocket watch in gold filled hunter case with engraved details including a bird”
  • “Diameter: 28.5 mm.”
  • “Gross weight: 38.3 g.”
  • “Beaded or reeded pattern around the case rim and visible verdigris along the bezel edges.”
  • “Onion-style crown with an attached bow at 3 o'clock.”
  • “Front case inside 2139523 with scales, back case inside marked the same, interior case inside marked 2139523 with Co.”

Dial and Hands

The watch features a white dial signed 'Elgin' with black Roman numeral hour markers and a subsidiary seconds dial. Based on visual observations, time is indicated by blued steel spade hour and minute hands along with a matching blued sub-seconds hand at 6 o'clock.

Physical condition observations note multiple hairline cracks visible on the dial, primarily located within the chapter ring between 1 and 5 o'clock. The catalog condition report similarly records 'several cracks to the dial'.

Evidence for this section
  • “white elgin dial with Roman numerals and sub-seconds dial”
  • “Blued steel spade hour and minute hands with a matching blued sub-seconds hand at 6 o'clock.”
  • “Multiple hairline cracks visible on the dial, primarily in the chapter ring between 1 and 5 o'clock.”
  • “several cracks to the dial”

Movement, Accessories, and Condition Notes

The internal mechanism is listed with serial number 5176097. The source catalog does not document the movement caliber, grade, size, or jewel count, and reports the watch as 'not running'.

The lot is accompanied by a fitted red velvet case marked 'F.W. Kinnoin Watchmaker & Jeweler, Velva, North Dakota'. Additional catalogued condition notes record wear and losses to the plating, accretions, and verdigris.

Evidence for this section
  • “serial number 5176097”
  • “not running”
  • “In fitted red velvet case from F.W. Kinnoin Watchmaker & Jeweler, Velva, North Dakota.”
  • “Wear and losses to the plating, accretions and verdigris, several cracks to the dial, not running.”

Open research questions

  • What movement grade, model, and jewel count correspond to Elgin serial number 5176097 in factory production records?
  • Which case maker used the scales hallmark associated with case serial number 2139523?
  • Is the movement stem-set or lever-set beneath the hunter front bezel?

Source evidence

Recorded claims and source quotations for Elgin Ladies Hunting Case Pocket Watch
FieldSource-reported valueSource quotation
Movement Serial Number5176097“serial number 5176097”
Case Number2139523“Front case inside 2139523 with scales, back case inside marked the same, interior case inside marked 2139523 with Co.”
Diameter28.5 mm“Diameter: 28.5 mm.”
Gross Weight38.3 g“Gross weight: 38.3 g.”
Dial DescriptionWhite Elgin dial with Roman numerals and sub-seconds dial“white elgin dial with Roman numerals and sub-seconds dial”
AccompanimentFitted red velvet case from F.W. Kinnoin Watchmaker & Jeweler, Velva, North Dakota“In fitted red velvet case from F.W. Kinnoin Watchmaker & Jeweler, Velva, North Dakota.”
Reported Operational StatusNot running (per auction condition report)“not running”

Visible details

  • Hinged front hunter cover opened showing the white enamel dial.
  • Multiple hairline cracks visible on the dial, primarily in the chapter ring between 1 and 5 o'clock.
  • Blued steel spade hour and minute hands with a matching blued sub-seconds hand at 6 o'clock.
  • Beaded or reeded pattern around the case rim and visible verdigris along the bezel edges.
  • Onion-style crown with an attached bow at 3 o'clock.

Research qualifications

  • The auction house notes condition issues including wear and losses to plating, accretions, verdigris, dial cracks, and that the watch is not running.
  • Movement caliber, grade, and jewel count are not specified in the source text.

Photograph identity and source facts were screened before import; rights clearance remains pending.

Consulted source

Elgin ladies pocket watch in gold filled hunter case with engraved details including a bird, whit

Reviewed 2026-10-21 · Record 1dd479d12c

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